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Lions Roar : September 2006
SHAMBHALA SUN SEPTEMBER 2006 22 of the evangelical movement that is very concerned about these things. We need to build coalitions like that. You say in your book, “War fever is always the enemy of social reform.” Are we experi- encing that now? I think so. War fever. Paranoia. When I look at how George Bush has turned the 9/11 at- tacks into a drum beating of patriotism in its nastiest form, it’s really very, very alarming. Yet you remain optimistic. It’s a step forward that we now have a sys- tem of international law, at least on paper, that outlaws things like slavery, genocide, and so forth. We have international courts like the UN War Crimes Tribunal that put people on trial for doing these sorts of things. It’s a small start, because so far it’s just people in small countries that get put on trial. Nonetheless, it is a start. I feel optimistic that there is this concept in the air of internationally administered justice. I think there has to be a great deal more internationalization of dealing with problems. At the top of my list of things we ought to do something about interna- tionally is global warming. If there are still human beings around in three hundred years, they will be wondering, “Why didn’t those foolish people back in 2006 take this problem more seriously? Their scientists were telling them the world was heating up; they were seeing melting ice caps and so forth. Why didn’t they do anything?” Do you think that, as in the days of the anti- slavery movement, people today are ahead of the politicians? I think that’s almost always the case where social justice is concerned. Politi- cians move when they’re pushed to move. In the U.S. in the 1960s, the civil rights movement pushed reluctant politicians to make the moves they did. Same thing about withdrawal from Vietnam. There are movements in many countries right now against the war in Iraq. If govern- ments change their tune on that—the U.S. and other governments—it’s going to happen because of pushing, and not be- cause of leadership at the top. ♦ OCTOBER 20–22, 2006 BOULDER, COLORADO Ocean of Dharma: CHÖGYAM TRUNGPA, RINPOCHE Spoken Words, Written Words, Beyond Words THIS INAUGURAL WEEKEND CONFERENCE—the first in a series of annual gatherings at Naropa University—will explore the seminal work of Chögyam Trungpa, Rinpoche, and his far-reaching scholarly and creative influence on the arts, humanities, social sciences and dharma practice in the West. PRESENTERS INCLUDE: John Baker * Sam Bercholtz * Reed Bye * Jane Carpenter-Cohn Marvin Casper * Carolyn Gimian * Eric Holm * Ellen Kearney Judith Lief * Larry Mermelstein * Fabrice Midal * Ben Moore Diana Mukpo * Reggie Ray * David Rome * Judith Simmer-Brown Phil Stanley * Anne Waldman * Karen Kissel Wegela * Scott Wellenbach www.naropa.edu/oceanofdharma For more information and to register, contact Naropa University Extended Studies at 303-245-4800. NAROPA UNIVERSITY PRESENTS Boulder, Colorado • 800-603-3117