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Lions Roar : September 2015
Tami Simon: What are the obstacles to authenticity? How did you both get to be so authentic? k.d. lang: I don’t know. I can’t tell you that I’m authentic, but I do know that my teacher constantly said that you should strive for uncontrived conduct. In my interpretation, that’s what Pema was talking about before—open heart, open mind. You’re not polluting the future with your conceived ideas of what should happen. Expectations are pollution of the future, essentially. So you try to stay com- pletely present, because the next moment is going to present you with a whole new set of circumstances. The idea is to be as open and flexible and natural and curi- ous as you can be. That’s hard because the world is con- stantly telling us we should be something other than who we are. Always. It’s so hard to get in touch with who we are because we have so much noise coming at us all the time. That’s why meditation practice has been an essential tool for me, because you have to sit with yourself. You have to sit with your own thoughts, how uncom- fortable your legs are, and how the leaf blower outside is ruining your medita- tion. [Laughter] Some days meditation is easier and some days you suck at it. Then some days you actually do experience the gap, and hopefully the gap gets a little longer over the course of time. Pema Chödrön: I’m learning from you here. You express all this really well. k.d. lang: I had the most amazing teacher. And I’ve read your books, so I’m basi- cally just regurgitating your teachings. [Laughter] Tami Simon: You both seem tremendously devoted, by which I mean this heartfelt outpouring toward the teachers you’ve worked with and to the teachings. How would you explain the experience of devotion, especially to someone who’s never met a teacher and maybe doesn’t think that’s going to happen to them? k.d. lang: It’s a common approach in Western society to gather pieces from HIS HOLINESS OF BÖN GYALWA MENRI TRIZIN 33rd A Tri Dzogchen Retreat Teachings with Chongtul Rinpoche: September 24-27, 2015 SOUND HEALING, Bloomfield, CT November 14-15, 2015 RED GARUDA TEACHING, Hanover, IN More: www.bonshenling.org / bonstore.org (917) 300–9254 May 27–30, 2016 WHIPPANY, NEW JERSEY SHAMBHALA SUN SEPTEMBER 2015 76