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Lions Roar : May 2016
Jack Kornfield: I would also say that it’s good to pay attention to love. The ability to be present and to love is, in some ways, a measure of the practice, as well as its fruit. The growing capac- ity for love, loving-kindness, and compassion makes the heart freer and more able to embrace the joys and sorrows of life with wisdom. If you’re able to love and be present more fully, or at least notice what leads you in that direction, that’s something really worth paying attention to. Sandra Oh: How do you feel your teaching has changed and grown over the years? Jack Kornfield: I’m nicer than I used to be. The training that I had in Asia was warrior training. You sit up all night, you don’t move—the kind of classic thing that one studies in Zen or, in this case, ascetic forest monasteries. It was a fierce, ambitious striving approach that at times led me to push people and be judgmental when they wouldn’t or couldn’t do it. The truth is that our psyches are very different in the West. Most people need to have a field of compassion and self-kind- ness before they can do something so demanding. I really had to learn that. That’s one way I’ve changed. LION’S ROAR | MAY 2016 42